Comments on: I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games User Interface , Art, Design, Games Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:13:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Ronna http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-119792 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:08:38 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-119792 Of course this probably raises additional questions. Whether there are moderators that have the say on what content is/is not allowed in the “theme” universe, or maybe content’s allowed when a certain number of votes have been recorded for that user-creator or content. In terms of user-created content, I think player’s such as yourself will get used to things in time. Of course this probably raises additional questions. Whether there are moderators that have the say on what content is/is not allowed in the “theme” universe, or maybe content’s allowed when a certain number of votes have been recorded for that user-creator or content. In terms of user-created content, I think player’s such as yourself will get used to things in time.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Hildebrandt http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-92182 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:52:24 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-92182 I think user-generated gaming will make certain advertisers take notice. Especially as it ramps up into a more mainstream medium. As the advertisers I work with look at an approach to gaming, the more innovative and diverse the opportunity, the more the demand. I think user-generated gaming will make certain advertisers take notice. Especially as it ramps up into a more mainstream medium. As the advertisers I work with look at an approach to gaming, the more innovative and diverse the opportunity, the more the demand.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Hanford http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-85755 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:20:19 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-85755 Daniel, from what I've seen of Whirled, you're designing it work with any style and you're already setting people's expectations as such, which I think is genius. But that clearly won't work for every game out there. Spore is one of those games ... it appears at first blush to have it's own style ... at least until you run into a Carebear or a Star Wars ship. Daniel, from what I’ve seen of Whirled, you’re designing it work with any style and you’re already setting people’s expectations as such, which I think is genius. But that clearly won’t work for every game out there. Spore is one of those games … it appears at first blush to have it’s own style … at least until you run into a Carebear or a Star Wars ship.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Daniel James http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-82705 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:36:31 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-82705 Our solution: fear not the fugly. Lots of people clearly like fugly. Let them like it. So long as people with taste have the tools to customize their own experience (like, picking their friends or not visiting the ones with fugly rooms) I think it'll be okay. Our solution: fear not the fugly. Lots of people clearly like fugly. Let them like it. So long as people with taste have the tools to customize their own experience (like, picking their friends or not visiting the ones with fugly rooms) I think it’ll be okay.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Hanford http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-78063 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:24:48 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-78063 I watched the entire video that huminado posted and Will Wright does indeed say they the stuff that gets uploaded will be categorized and sorted, and they'll try to match the content that's being downloaded to the type of content you're making. I have no idea how they'll do that ... but it should be pretty cool. I watched the entire video that huminado posted and Will Wright does indeed say they the stuff that gets uploaded will be categorized and sorted, and they’ll try to match the content that’s being downloaded to the type of content you’re making. I have no idea how they’ll do that … but it should be pretty cool.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: NMe1 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-78050 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:54:29 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-78050 1. On your origin planet, the player content that you would be encounter would be those imported to flesh out your ecosystem. Hopefully you are able to filter out unwanted/ inappropiate content such as "genital" characters, Corporate logo/characters etc. From your own planet right from the start. Especially the corporate characters - if I find any Ronald McDonald's I'll be doing my best to filter out or exterminate them. Hopefully any of these will be flagged and removed from the database when found. (On a side note, there is a Coke add - in Australia - that looks remarkably like a Spore generated planet. 2. If you find the former characters or just shoddy content on other worlds, then surely you can just not visit them again. Or when advanced enough, take enjoyment in the various means of destroying them: War of the Worlds; teleporting down a stronger creature you've designed to hunt them down; drowning the planet, or causing other environmental reshaping or catastophe; or planet busting weapons. I'm sure at some stage everyone is going to try destruction as well as creativity, and these "dud" planets will be a perfect target to vent your destructive wrath upon. 3. To continue with what I believe RohoMec was saying on a SciFi universe. It would be interesting to see clan type grouping, where content matching that universe may be grouped and thereby uploaded into your game. For example "trekkies" may want to form planets, creatures, buildings etc based on Star Trek. Then a user may be able to download a consistent galaxy populated by those creations. Of course this probably raises additional questions. Whether there are moderators that have the say on what content is/is not allowed in the "theme" universe, or maybe content's allowed when a certain number of votes have been recorded for that user-creator or content. 4. I wonder if you can filter content based on the complexity of the creation. i.e. If the game can recognise a creation that has had a lot of work put into it, and you filter to allow those. Then hopefully they're better quality creations. 1. On your origin planet, the player content that you would be encounter would be those imported to flesh out your ecosystem. Hopefully you are able to filter out unwanted/ inappropiate content such as “genital” characters, Corporate logo/characters etc. From your own planet right from the start. Especially the corporate characters—if I find any Ronald McDonald’s I’ll be doing my best to filter out or exterminate them. Hopefully any of these will be flagged and removed from the database when found.
(On a side note, there is a Coke add—in Australia—that looks remarkably like a Spore generated planet.

2. If you find the former characters or just shoddy content on other worlds, then surely you can just not visit them again. Or when advanced enough, take enjoyment in the various means of destroying them: War of the Worlds; teleporting down a stronger creature you’ve designed to hunt them down; drowning the planet, or causing other environmental reshaping or catastophe; or planet busting weapons.
I’m sure at some stage everyone is going to try destruction as well as creativity, and these “dud” planets will be a perfect target to vent your destructive wrath upon.

3. To continue with what I believe RohoMec was saying on a SciFi universe. It would be interesting to see clan type grouping, where content matching that universe may be grouped and thereby uploaded into your game. For example “trekkies” may want to form planets, creatures, buildings etc based on Star Trek. Then a user may be able to download a consistent galaxy populated by those creations. Of course this probably raises additional questions. Whether there are moderators that have the say on what content is/is not allowed in the “theme” universe, or maybe content’s allowed when a certain number of votes have been recorded for that user-creator or content.

4. I wonder if you can filter content based on the complexity of the creation. i.e. If the game can recognise a creation that has had a lot of work put into it, and you filter to allow those. Then hopefully they’re better quality creations.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Hanford http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77939 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:20:39 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77939 This is one of my biggest problems with MMOs. the ones I've played sucked me out of the game because the people had stupid names and were talking about off-topic shit. I know that most MMOs run at least one server where everyone's supposed to role-play, but that's a little too dorky for even me. This is one of my biggest problems with MMOs. the ones I’ve played sucked me out of the game because the people had stupid names and were talking about off-topic shit. I know that most MMOs run at least one server where everyone’s supposed to role-play, but that’s a little too dorky for even me.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: RohoMech http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77934 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:08:15 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77934 hmm, yea, after thinking about it for a while, I'll have to agree. Since the game is an immersive experiance, you're arguing things need to "mesh into the universe" to create a consistant experiance. heh, not to bust out the tired-old games/movie comparison, but along those lines, you'd be watching a movie that's well done and suddenly it turns into a shakey-hand-cam video, and then into some oddly unfocused amateur piece, it'd be really hard to come away with a satisfied feeling. I think the solution though is to separate the shared content from the "critical-path" of the game, it'd be interesting to see if the notion of channels / authors / etc can transfer over to a game like Spore. Ie, if you move to a Sci-fi universe, you'd *expect* the starship enterprise and be suprised if you saw a bunch of dragons etc. But I'm just rambling now :-P hmm, yea, after thinking about it for a while, I’ll have to agree. Since the game is an immersive experiance, you’re arguing things need to “mesh into the universe” to create a consistant experiance.

heh, not to bust out the tired-old games/movie comparison, but along those lines, you’d be watching a movie that’s well done and suddenly it turns into a shakey-hand-cam video, and then into some oddly unfocused amateur piece, it’d be really hard to come away with a satisfied feeling.

I think the solution though is to separate the shared content from the “critical-path” of the game, it’d be interesting to see if the notion of channels / authors / etc can transfer over to a game like Spore. Ie, if you move to a Sci-fi universe, you’d expect the starship enterprise and be suprised if you saw a bunch of dragons etc.

But I’m just rambling now :-P

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: Hanford http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77316 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:50:51 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77316 Huminado: Thanks for the link. It does look like Spore is going out of their way to make sure players get a consistent experience. But I hope others follow suit. Roho: Games are a bit different than other forms of creative expression. A bad Myspace profile might suck, but a bad game world can really pull you out of an otherwise-immersive experience. It can water down a world. Huminado: Thanks for the link. It does look like Spore is going out of their way to make sure players get a consistent experience. But I hope others follow suit.

Roho: Games are a bit different than other forms of creative expression. A bad Myspace profile might suck, but a bad game world can really pull you out of an otherwise-immersive experience. It can water down a world.

]]> Comment on I’m a bit worried about user-generated content in video games by: RohoMech http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77222 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:49:52 +0000 http://blog.hanfordlemoore.com/2007/03/16/im-a-bit-worried-about-user-generated-content-in-video-games#comment-77222 Wow, the penis parade thing was hilarious...but yea, pretty wrong. In terms of user-created content, I think player's such as yourself will get used to things in time. Sure a lot of MySpace pages are horrible, and however decided letting people embed auto-playing videos and sounds into the page is a moron, but more often then not, if there's a band I like, or someone I know professionally, they'll have a pretty decent site. So hopefully as Huminado points out, you can filter designs out from people, or perhaps...even better, only see designs from a specific set of people. If that's the case, just know i'll be making huge genital monsters, so you might wanna block me too :-) Wow, the penis parade thing was hilarious…but yea, pretty wrong.

In terms of user-created content, I think player’s such as yourself will get used to things in time. Sure a lot of MySpace pages are horrible, and however decided letting people embed auto-playing videos and sounds into the page is a moron, but more often then not, if there’s a band I like, or someone I know professionally, they’ll have a pretty decent site.

So hopefully as Huminado points out, you can filter designs out from people, or perhaps…even better, only see designs from a specific set of people. If that’s the case, just know i’ll be making huge genital monsters, so you might wanna block me too :-)

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